I'm out.

"K-Roll-PorscheTamer" (k-roll390) 10/17/2014 at 18:16 • Filed to: FML

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I'm not long for this world if the future has come to this. The enthusiast in me wants to die, I think it will, this is the final "fuck you" to forced induction I have to give. I'm fucking done with new cars. I don't care of the horsepower and torque nor do I give a damn about MPGs, I'm just done. :'(

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I hate this world, I hate the future. All the faith I had in humanity and the car world is gone.

K thanks, die.

P.S. This is how I feel about the future.

I will never be happy again.

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:21

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I'm sorry buddy :(

cletus44 aka Clayton Seams > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:23

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I must be an automotive hipster because I love old turbo cars (930, 2002, 280ZX etc.) but new ones bug me. Maybe I just love to bitch about new cars haha

PS9 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:24

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Here's the terrible part; if your career as an engineer goes well and you end up in the auto industry, you're going to end up working on all those new fancy gizmos you hate.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:26

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This coming from the guy who bought a forced injection Focus ST?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Manuél Ferrari 10/17/2014 at 18:26

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Nothing anyone can do will make me feel happy ever again, I will never be happy again.

Brian Silvestro > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 10/17/2014 at 18:26

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Old turbo cars are awesome because they were turbo'd merely for power, and nothing else.

New turbo'd cars are turbo'd to get power from smaller engines to save fuel.

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:27

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;(

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:29

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What if I won the lotto and sold you my 997 for $2500?

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:30

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Don't you drive a turbocharged car?

Manuél Ferrari > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 10/17/2014 at 18:30

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Me too

FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 > PS9 10/17/2014 at 18:30

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That's what aftermarket companies and performance divisions are for.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 10/17/2014 at 18:31

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Ford is one thing, a brand that I've spent my entire life loving to death doing something that to me is the equivalent of the ultimate sin in my eyes is a complete other thing.

You would never understand.

FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:31

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I to share these sentiments. Although I couldn't care less about the 911 (no offense intended).

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > PS9 10/17/2014 at 18:31

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Kill me.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 10/17/2014 at 18:32

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Older turbos are fine! This new turbo trend is awful, where every car gets a damn turbo.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:32

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Have some old, NA Porsches. Assuming Kinja behaves.

cletus44 aka Clayton Seams > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:33

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Agreed. The best new turbo car is the 650S imo. It blew me away when I was on the track with it.

Leadbull > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:34

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I'm excited about the future of cars. Driverless cars, hybrid cars, electric cars, turbo cars, and all the benefits that come with each.

Automotive culture is too big to die off. There will always be exciting and fun to drive cars for us.

And besides, if your definition of "fun to drive" is limited to N/A cars with sticks, I'm not sure you actually love driving.

Driving encompasses more than that narrow sliver of experience. There's something about being in control of a vehicle that's just great. Big cars, small cars, fast cars, sketchy cars, trucks, golf carts, electric cars, etc. There's enjoyment to be found in all of that.

Don't be so ignorant that you intentionally close yourself off from potentially great things. Have some optimism, have an open mind.

PS9 > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 10/17/2014 at 18:34

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The turbo isn't the problem, it's where it's going and what that means for a beloved brand (specifically a base model from said brand)

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 10/17/2014 at 18:34

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Yes, compare my Focus ST to the sincere and serene driving pleasure I get from driving high-revving N/A Porsches, because that makes fucking sense; but do go on.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 10/17/2014 at 18:34

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Which is why you'd never understand.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 10/17/2014 at 18:35

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It won't be enough. It'll never be enough.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Manuél Ferrari 10/17/2014 at 18:36

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It wouldn't be enough to quell my sincere sadness.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:37

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Dude.

area man > FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 10/17/2014 at 18:38

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You hear him?? You'll NEVER understand!!

[I don't either apparently]

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:38

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I wonder how much money we could raise from Oppos by way of Kickstarter or something to stage a military overtaking of Porsche AG.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > PS9 10/17/2014 at 18:39

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Porsche has some pretty talented engineers, I'm sure they'll get the power delivery to be pretty smooth and as close to N/A as possible. The sound will never be quite the same again I suppose.

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:40

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I guess it's time to save up and get yourself a W140 S600. Because v12.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 10/17/2014 at 18:41

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It's like everything I've lived for in my car enthusiast life just went and left me forvever.

DoYouEvenShift > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:41

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Ive heard this rant before. It came from a bunch of old guys griping about fuel injection.

FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:42

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I think I do, the Corvette won't ever get a 427 ci NA engine again and I think that's a travesty, same with the next gen Camaro. I think the hellcat should have gotten the V-10 instead of a super charger. I think that the ecoboost in the F-150 is a joke and reliability issue. I sympathize with your 911 issues, I really do, I just don't ever plan to own a 911.

cletus44 aka Clayton Seams > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:44

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As an old car lover, I really stop caring about any car made past 1991.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:44

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Wasn't that pretty much just speculation/rumors?

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > DoYouEvenShift 10/17/2014 at 18:44

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I want my carburetor back. Get off my lawn

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:46

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Remember, the company I love used to make this:

Now they turned it into this:

Used to, Toyota made everything rear wheel drive based and reliable. They built high quality things for low prices, they made some of the best vehicles in the world. They proved to the world(Britain) that you didn't need to worry about breaking down in the most dangerous places(Land Cruiser). They proved they could make a beautiful car that could compete with the Italians(2000GT). Now days, with the exception of REAL SUV's and trucks, they make dog shit. Embrace the past, that hasn't changed.

TheBaron2112 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:47

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All the more reason to buy naturally aspirated 80s 911s now... it'll only be a good investment.

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:49

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:(

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Leadbull 10/17/2014 at 18:50

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Excuse me sir, but did you just say that I "don't love driving"?? Let me tell you something, if you think my definition of fun to drive is limited to NA cars, you're mistaken, I enjoy some turbo cars, like my FoST, and the 997 turbo I was in during the summer. But what you don't understand is how much an NA Porsche means to ME; you would never understand how I feel, you've never experienced what I've fel, going through the entire rev range to the limit to work for all that power, instead of the laziness and ease of use it takes to put power down, and how it will inevitably be with the entire range of 911s.

You have no right to call me ignorant if you don't even know.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Leadbull 10/17/2014 at 18:51

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Well put. Not to mention turbo cars are all very different. There are some that have a lot of lag then a short punch of torque (mine) then some which have quick response and are quite close to the character of N/A. It's too diverse of a technology to just dismiss.

Fed(oo=[][]=oo)uken > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:54

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Try BMW making a FF car. Or a V8 M3. Or really any BMW made this decade. I feel your feels, and all I have to offer is that it will fade, have faith that it will.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 10/17/2014 at 18:54

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That's the point! I don't care how much more power it makes, or how smooth it could possibly be, I might as well drive with damn earplugs in because it will never sound the same again. :'(

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 10/17/2014 at 18:55

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Not enough, because no one cares.. :(

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 10/17/2014 at 18:55

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Nope.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 10/17/2014 at 18:56

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Nothing will be the same again. It's just too much change. :(

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:56

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Quit bitching. If it comes down to a dick-measuring contest of porschephiles on here, I can be right there in the locker room and possibly walk out of there as king. You might not shrivel up and leave the bathroom in shame, but RESPECT! NOW YOU LOOK AT THIS CAR AND TELL ME IT ISN'T AMAZING!!!!!

Sorry K-roll, but Porsche is pretty much one of the world's most pre-eminent turbocharging engineering houses. If porsche wanting to go all-turbo means you won't like porsche anymore? You didn't like "Porsche" to begin with, you liked "Porsche 911s from 1963 to 1974"

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 18:57

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That doesn't mean it can't sound good. The newer Porsches are already nothing like older ones, effortless power on command, they sound completely different, electronics all over the place, much larger. A turbo is just another step along.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 10/17/2014 at 18:57

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I stopped caring about new cars in general just now. I'm just done with this shit. I look forward to a absolutely nothing.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/17/2014 at 18:58

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I don't care if it is; inevitably, it will happen, and it makes me wanna die as a car enthusiast.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 10/17/2014 at 18:58

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I want the past back.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > TheBaron2112 10/17/2014 at 18:59

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No wonder the values are going back up again.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Manuél Ferrari 10/17/2014 at 18:59

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There's no hope for me Rusto.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 10/17/2014 at 18:59

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I got the same backlash when I said something, I've learned it's best to keep to yourself when it comes to K-Roll and his weird thing against turbos.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:00

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Alrighty then.

EL_ULY > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:00

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You got 3 options.

#1: switch to another N/A team.

#2: Stay in school, make a lot of the moneyz, and Sing(er)!

#3: Adapt to the changes.... but that's not the K-Roll i know. It's not the K-Roll way. It's not how K-Roll...... rolls!!!!lol. Up to you :]

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 10/17/2014 at 19:02

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Yeah it's definitely over the top to be rude to fellow oppos about it.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:03

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Wanna swap places? Porsche keeps their N/A-ness and Chevy puts a TTV6 in the Corvette to appease my strange want.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 10/17/2014 at 19:04

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This isn't a dick measuring contest. I've always loved the brand, even when they introduced the Cayenne, even when they loved the Panamera, and especially with the Macan which I love a lot. I've loved Porsche from 1963 to now, this I don't even know what to think.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 10/17/2014 at 19:04

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Another step along to hell.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/17/2014 at 19:05

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Fine.

bob and john > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:05

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meh. times change. so must the cars and people. I'm going to be amazed if in 10 years time there will be ANYTHING without a turbo. all big rigs have them. 90% of new cars have them now. Bikes just started playing with them again.

I think the only N/A motor that might be left are the racing motor. and even those may follow the rules of F1 and go boosted

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > EL_ULY 10/17/2014 at 19:06

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I don't know what to do. :(

I've adapted to every change Porsche has ever made, this is just to much of a change.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Fed(oo=[][]=oo)uken 10/17/2014 at 19:06

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I wish I did..

Alex from Toronto > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:06

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Could always take the turbo off.

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:06

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Don't say that :((

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 10/17/2014 at 19:07

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I'll refer you to another post he made, with my comment, and his replies.

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/when-you-can-f…

Just...

I probably could've been nicer, but it had been about his third post about the topic.

Leadbull > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:07

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I didn't mean to insult you personally.

But c'mon... Ever driven a BMW straight six? I know the N/A feeling that people talk about, I get it, it's great.

But so are turbochargers, especially the newer ones. I suspect you'll hardly know the next 911 will be turbo'd. Just like the California T, it'll be silky smooth.

Porsche really cares about how things feel; I'm sure they'll get it right.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 10/17/2014 at 19:09

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I'd be okay with this.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 10/17/2014 at 19:10

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Haha, very dramatic. The old cars are still there to keep for weekends. The car industry moves and that's good. I'd have no job to go to when I graduate if we all still drove simple carburreted cars exactly like what came before. We need to use less gas and people demand the same or more power, turbos acheive that. Don't you already have a classic 911 to hold onto?

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:10

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Now I'm not saying the Corvette wouldn't kick the Porsche's ass or still be an infinitely better deal, but... at least the Porsche is still N/A.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Alex from Toronto 10/17/2014 at 19:10

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That won't work.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Manuél Ferrari 10/17/2014 at 19:11

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I must, there's simply no hope.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 10/17/2014 at 19:14

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The problem is he puts so much emotion in whats simply a business. Putting emotion in one car makes more sense, for example I love my Panda, but think some of fiats other cars are shit. Thats how it goes, they try to make what sells. If he said "I love the old 911s and dont like new ones" fair enough. He also seems to be forgetting oppos most important rule, dont be a dick.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Leadbull 10/17/2014 at 19:14

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It doesn't matter if they get it right, or if they hide it well enough, I'll know, everyone will know, and that, and I almost liked the California too until you just mentioned that now. Sure they'll get it right, but it won't be right to me.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:16

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Unfortunately that's just the way that the market is going these days. Honestly I don't see how it's such a big deal. I understand it's frustrating just as I'm frustrated in Ford putting a Turbo 4-Banger in the ultimate American vehicle but I'd be more upset if Ford or Chevrolet stopped offering the massive powerful V8's in the Mustangs and Camaro's. I believe you can have just as much fun with a Turbo 3.8 as with a N/A 3.8

997 GT3 RS 4 lyfe!

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:16

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But don't take this so personally

As awesome as Porsches are there is more to life

And there will always be 911SCs. And 3.2s. And 964s. And 993s. And 997s

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:17

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I think you could find at least 50-100 Jalops who who might be able to shell out a buck or two. And you might be able to pinch a total of $15-20,000 from the resident Jalops That Have Money. We could buy some swords and make some homemade armor and sit around and watch a few seasons of Game of Thrones and I'm sure we could be a match for Porsche AG guards and the German Police.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 10/17/2014 at 19:17

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Still okay with this.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 10/17/2014 at 19:19

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I mean, I have sentiments to GM and their V8s, but if they had to kill them all tomorrow in favor of turbocharged 6s, I wouldn't complain. I'd move with the times, exactly what Porsche is doing.

Maybe if they could pull decent MPGs out of their motors like GM can with the LT1...

Oh well, let him throw his fit.

mcseanerson > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 10/17/2014 at 19:20

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Every car in the world can go turbo as far as I care as long as 1) GT3 is still N/A 2) Chevy still makes some form of track focused N/A rev monster like the Z/28 or C6 Z06 3) At least one manufacturer makes a zippy little N/A hatch that wants to rev it's brains out.

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/3749838

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:21

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Well, if you can convince many sheeple that the green/eco movement is just a great gimic for those evil corporations they love to hate to make money, then that might be feasible.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:21

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That makes no sense but okay. You do you.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback 10/17/2014 at 19:21

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Sure I could have fun, but it wouldn't feel fun to me. I hate the Ecoboost in the Mustang and while I don't care about the Camaro, I'll feel bad for people who didn't want it either.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Manuél Ferrari 10/17/2014 at 19:22

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This is all I've ever lived with and loved my car enthusiast life, how can I not take this personally? :'(

I just don't know.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 10/17/2014 at 19:23

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Yeah best let him get it out of his system haha.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 10/17/2014 at 19:23

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They'll mow us down in Cayenne GTSs

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 10/17/2014 at 19:24

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It kinda is though isn't it. Just a gimmick.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 10/17/2014 at 19:24

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You do you?

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:25

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I'm a big American and British car fan, while liking and respecting the Germans, I dislike when cars that should have big powerful engines get downsize for something small like a Turbo 4. Jags will always have the I-6, V8, or V12s. Unless it's the F-Type which is glorious. Astons we don't need to mention. Every Muscle car deserves a big, gas chugging V8 with a manual. The Mustang in the family is amazing but it's not as good because of the 4spd auto.... If only it had the 5 Speed.

Conan > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:26

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It's not so bad. You just need to drive these for life. I've wanted a Singer for years.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Conan 10/17/2014 at 19:27

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I have no money.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:28

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Do your own thing, basically. Whatever suits you.

Good lord boy, study up on your lingo.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 10/17/2014 at 19:29

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The corvette is light enough that in all reality they could get away with a 300hp turbo 4 as the absolute base model and to be honest I would be ok with that. the corvette will always be available with a V8 that's a given but why not add in other options to make it more affordable for the younger crowd? remember the original vette had a strait 6. I personally love the look of the vette but I also enjoy getting 35mpg's. Why not have both?

oh and any time I hear TTV6 the Syclone comes to mind. GM could do it. just take the canyon/colorado make it a single cab with the TT V6 of the caddy with AWD. it would be so easy and so awesome

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 10/17/2014 at 19:30

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I've never heard anyone say that before..

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:30

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Alright fine. Take the money, hire a Finnish fighting force. The Cayennes would have no chance.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 10/17/2014 at 19:31

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270 horsepower TTI4 in there and sell it for like 30k.

TTV6 from the CTS V-Sport at 40k.

And then the normal LT1 V8 at 50k.

I'd kill for a Canyon-based Syclone.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 10/17/2014 at 19:33

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That's an excellent idea.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 10/17/2014 at 19:34

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EXACTLY! good to know we're on the same

$30K-35K vette sign me up!

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:35

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I know it's personal. I just mean don't let it ruin your life. You are a good and have a lot to offer the world. There are very few guys who are as nice and genuine as you. Don't let Porsche dictate your happiness level.

Focus on you're studying. Maybe one day you'll make it big and buy ze Carrera GT. It won't matter what Porsche does going forward if you own the best modern supercar ever made!

Conan > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:35

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But you have a dream. If there's one thing that Oppo's taught me (and I came here late) is that with a dream you can do just about anything with cars. Each day I come through I see guys much younger than me who are living out their own particular automotive Nirvanas. You're also smart and on a career path that is likely to lead to a fair amount of affluence (with hard work.)

You also have not bad cars to tide you over until you can live out your goals of naturally aspirated Porsche glory. We also see people, every day, that are devoted to companies that don't even exist. Porsche is one of the most legendary brands in history. There's going to be stupendous NA ones on the road for your grandchildren to drive long after you are gone. Maybe you'll even hand one down to them and they'll see the proper ways returning even if you don't.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 10/17/2014 at 19:38

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According to their science, Florida should have been under water 10 years ago, then 9, then 8. They change stories every goddamn day, then rake in billions in revenue. The heads of the Global Warming movement are rich as fuck hypocrites, that live in houses that put out as much emissions as some schools. It is just a sales scheme.